I just wanna say hi… to all you cool peeps. While I’m here, I might as well advise all of you to try Galub Jamun. What is Galub Jamun you say? It is spongy dry milk and cottage cheese balls soaked in rose scented sugar syrup. You can find it at your local Indian restaurant.
Hope you guys have a good day,
Adios!
Fun fact: If you split the Spanish word ‘adios’ into it’s two parts, you get ‘a’ which means ‘to’ and ‘dios’ which means ‘god’.
To God!
Oh, and if anyone could recommend me a good ‘coming out of the closet story’, I would greatly appreciate it. I just read the unfinished novel “Spike” by oomizuao, and I need moar!
I remember starting a Kyell Gold book a couple years back. I believe it was about a tiger football stud and a cross dressing fox. Yeah, that Kyell Gold, he got right into the yiff even before I knew who the fricken characters were! :
Are all his stories like that? Not that I don’t like a little yiff and all, but COME ON, he couldn’t even get past page 1 without it getting it getting dirty! >:(
‘Waterways’ is way less yiffy; it’s a sweet high school coming out story. I haven’t read ‘Green Fairy’ yet but I will! (And that’s marketed as YA, so it’s clean.)
You didn’t read far enough. Yes, it starts with sex - and the first part of the book deals with the fallout from that single action. It was an unexpected hookup that got inside the tiger’s head. He couldn’t shake it, it messed him up and he winds up confronting the fox for making him gay. The fox was doing it because his best friend was beaten up by gay-hating football players, so he wanted to trick a football player to humiliate them. It’s a book of 250 pages and they maybe have sex 4 times. Then the story becomes about the tiger hiding his orientation from his team/the public because he makes it to a pro team, but the fox’s best friend works to out him.
To my mind the coming-out trope has worn kind of thin in the fandom, at least in stories/books where it’s the main focus. (Though it’s probably going to be one of those perennially popular topics as long as the fandom keeps getting new young participants who might be going through similar things themselves.)
IMO if you want to write LGBT themes, there’s a much broader spectrum of experiences and issues out there to explore beyond the coming-out story, and that might be where the opportunity really lies these days.
Hello and welcome! With a first post that has wonderful tasty morsels of trivia, you definitely caught my attention X3
I’ll be perfectly honest with you. Out of Position was the first novel I read within the fandom. The initial sex scene nearly turned me off too, but I wanted to give it more of a chance since it came highly recommended, and I’m glad I did. I was so hooked by the end of the book that I immediaterly purchased the second one. The only reason why I stopped after the second is because I want to give other authors a try.
Granted, like every book, this one has its own bumps, but the character growth and development is more than note-worthy, and the switch in perspectives doesn’t happen often but runs very smoothly. For the most part, a lot of different aspects of how anthros would fit into football have been thought-out (for the most part, but then no book is flawless), and even if you’re not much of a football fan, the football parts are still entertaining enough. Personal recommendation from the Munch :3
Yeah. Although that kind of introduction really bothers me, if you guys say so, I’m sure its a great novel. I’ll give it chance after I read Waterways.
Yep, us closeted teens are goin nowhere XD
Poetigress, I’m curious to know what you think is lacking in LGBT books. I have trouble seeing the broader spectrum of these problems and experiences due to still being in the closet. Plus the person that I’m in love with is also very closeted, so with this love story I’m trying to write, I feel like it’s impossible for me not to include “coming-out” as a major element. Anyways, I’d love to hear your input.
On another note… I noticed that no one has said anything about the novel that I mentioned in my first post. I’ll just assume that either none of you have read it… or that I have a terrible taste in literature and you don’t want to offend me by saying it sucks. XD
Anyways, this novel has had a pretty substantial impact on my decisions to come out of the closet. However if you read it, I doubt you will find as meaningful as I did, for obvious reasons. I still highly recommend it though. It’s a very heartwarming story, despite the grotesque intro.
Just a warning though: it ends on a cliffhanger (she still is in the process of writing it).
Well, gay males tend to be well represented in furry fiction, somewhat less so for lesbian, bisexual, and transgender characters (or the bisexual characters are just conveniently so for erotic purposes, kind of the way an unrealistic form of intersex is used in adult furry art). I’m not saying other orientations and identities are never represented, but not as often. As far as experiences, I’d like to see more stories dealing with things like same-sex couples raising children, questions of faith, growing older… that kind of thing. What happens after coming out, I guess, after that realization. And really, just more stories that aren’t solely about the characters’ orientation the way coming-out stories pretty much have to be, by design. Again, there are some, and I think there are more now than there have been.
But again, there are issues of audience, and writers writing what’s familiar to them, so I can understand possible reasons why the things I’ve mentioned are less represented. (And I admit I don’t read much of the LGBT-themed fiction published within the fandom, because a lot of it is gay romance/erotica that doesn’t appeal to me – so maybe all this stuff is there more than I think, and I just don’t see it because I’m only reading reviews and cover blurbs and not buying the books.)
XD I didn’t make a comment on “Spike” because I’ve never even heard of the author. However, I only started reading furry fiction this year thanks to some stigmas of being a long time rp’er (past experiences made even published stories seem like rp’s to me >.>), so that’s not to say they’re not well-known.
I think what PT mentioned is what I like about the whole Out of Position series. Since it’s a series, it was able to build up tension for the whole coming out part, and continues on to show how their relationship evolves and matures over time. It also illustrates how it’s effected by the world around them, and vice versa. For what it’s worth, Waterways came highly recommended to me as well, and I’m planning to read that after the football series :3
